[QCsenate 0036] Re: Inaccurate statement in the The Catalyst

[KARRAN JAINARAIN]

Hello all, 


If other colleges are saying "NO" why Queens have to feel pressured to go along with this proposal? Why can we do the same as others have done already? Its time that we also say no too.

 
Karran Jainarain
917-749-3507
Vice President of International Students Club Q.C
Q.C Graduate Student Alternate Senator (Rep)
Member of the Graduate Scholastic Committee & The Library /Tech Committee 
Senior Advisor to the CUNY International Students Coalition
Student Leader of the Queens College CUNYfirst Student Marketing Team
Member of the Queens College Student Marketing Advisory Board


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 From: "Manuel.Sanudo at qc.cuny.edu" <Manuel.Sanudo at qc.cuny.edu>
To: Roberta.Brody at qc.cuny.edu 
Cc: qcsenate-bounces at lists.qc.cuny.edu; qcsenate at qc.edu 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: [QCsenate 0034] Re: Inaccurate statement in the The Catalyst
 

While I agree to an extent with Ken Lord
that the language in the Catalyst  of "approving the Pathways
proposal" was not totally accurate, I have to say that if the Senate
meant to disagree with the Pathways proposal we should have said so in
no unequivocal terms. Colleges like Baruch and City College have said "no"
while others like NYC Tech and John Jay are seemingly refusing to take
any action.  Meanwhile at Hunter College and we certainly here at
Queens College have acquiesced to the Pathways process by not for a second
time restating the position we took at our  November 10, 2012 Senate
meeting: 

Therefore the Academic Senate of Queens
College concludes that the Pathways to Degree Completion Initiative cannot
be redeemed by minor changes to its individual components and rejects Pathways
on pedagogical, intellectual, and legal grounds. 

Perhaps a second refusal to the CUNY
Board's resolution is what we should have stated in no uncertain terms. 

Manny 

Manuel Sanudo
Reference Librarian
Rosenthal Library, 311
Queens College
Flushing NY 11367
718-997-3769 



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Subject [QCsenate 0033]  Inacurate statement
inthe The Catalyst 
  
 


Letter from Senator and UCC Chair  Ken
Lord: 

-----Forwarded by Roberta Brody/GSLIS/Faculty/Queens College on 04/19/2012
10:32AM ----- 
To: Jonathan Buchsbaum/Faculty/Queens
College at QC
From: Kenneth Lord/CSCI/Faculty/Queens College
Date: 04/19/2012 09:07AM
Subject: Inaccurate statement in The Catalyst 

Jonathan,

The Catalyst which I received yesterday is completely inaccurate with respect
to the Academic Senate's actions.
At no time has the Senate made any statement approving the Pathways to
Degree Completion initiative. Quite to
the contrary, the Senate passed a resolution last November rejecting Pathways
on "pedagogical, intellectual, 
and legal grounds" and was one of the first governance bodies to do
so.

What the Senate approved in April was a required implementation plan describing
how the college would go about
putting courses into the Pathways pigeon holes. It was an act of compliance
with the Board's resolution, not an 
approval of the process.

Professor Bowen's statements made during debate at the April Senate meeting
made an erroneous premise and
conclusion that the Senate's approval of the implementation plan (a product
of hours of work by a Senate committee
comprised of faculty, staff and students) implied that the Senate approved
of Pathways as a whole, which, as I
have said, is very far from the truth. That misinformation has now been
turned into print and distributed to the College
community.

Now that the damage is done I think it is the responsibility of the editors
of The Catalyst to print and distribute an
immediate retraction and explanation.

The Senate's motion condemning Pathways may be found at 
http://www.qc.cuny.edu/Academics/AcademicSenate/Documents/111110.pdf

Thank you for your attention,

Ken Lord, Chair 
Academic Senate Undergraduate Curriculum
Committee

=======================================
Dr. Kenneth Lord
Assistant to the Provost for Educational Technology (www.qc.cuny.edu/edtech)
Chair, Undergraduate Curriculum Committee
Lecturer, Computer Science
Queens College, CUNY 


Roberta Brody PhD
Professor
Graduate School of Library and Information Studies
Queens College, City University of New York
Roberta.Brody at QC.cuny.edu (work)
bobbybrody at aol.com (home)
718 997-3790 


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