While I agree to an extent with Ken Lord that the language in the Catalyst of "approving the Pathways proposal" was not totally accurate, I have to say that if the Senate meant to disagree with the Pathways proposal we should have said so in no unequivocal terms. Colleges like Baruch and City College have said "no" while others like NYC Tech and John Jay are seemingly refusing to take any action. Meanwhile at Hunter College and we certainly here at Queens College have acquiesced to the Pathways process by not for a second time restating the position we took at our November 10, 2012 Senate meeting:

Therefore the Academic Senate of Queens College concludes that the Pathways to Degree Completion Initiative cannot be redeemed by minor changes to its individual components and rejects Pathways on pedagogical, intellectual, and legal grounds.

Perhaps a second refusal to the CUNY Board's resolution is what we should have stated in no uncertain terms.

Manny

Manuel Sanudo
Reference Librarian
Rosenthal Library, 311
Queens College
Flushing NY 11367
718-997-3769

Roberta.Brody@qc.cuny.edu
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Subject	[QCsenate 0033] Inacurate statement inthe The Catalyst

Letter from Senator and UCC Chair Ken Lord:

-----Forwarded by Roberta Brody/GSLIS/Faculty/Queens College on 04/19/2012 10:32AM -----
To: Jonathan Buchsbaum/Faculty/Queens College@QC
From: Kenneth Lord/CSCI/Faculty/Queens College
Date: 04/19/2012 09:07AM
Subject: Inaccurate statement in The Catalyst

Jonathan,

The Catalyst which I received yesterday is completely inaccurate with respect to the Academic Senate's actions.
At no time has the Senate made any statement approving the Pathways to Degree Completion initiative. Quite to
the contrary, the Senate passed a resolution last November rejecting Pathways on "pedagogical, intellectual,
and legal grounds" and was one of the first governance bodies to do so.

What the Senate approved in April was a required implementation plan describing how the college would go about
putting courses into the Pathways pigeon holes. It was an act of compliance with the Board's resolution, not an
approval of the process.

Professor Bowen's statements made during debate at the April Senate meeting made an erroneous premise and
conclusion that the Senate's approval of the implementation plan (a product of hours of work by a Senate committee
comprised of faculty, staff and students) implied that the Senate approved of Pathways as a whole, which, as I
have said, is very far from the truth. That misinformation has now been turned into print and distributed to the College
community.

Now that the damage is done I think it is the responsibility of the editors of The Catalyst to print and distribute an
immediate retraction and explanation.

The Senate's motion condemning Pathways may be found at
http://www.qc.cuny.edu/Academics/AcademicSenate/Documents/111110.pdf

Thank you for your attention,

Ken Lord, Chair

Academic Senate Undergraduate Curriculum Committee

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Dr. Kenneth Lord
Assistant to the Provost for Educational Technology (www.qc.cuny.edu/edtech)
Chair, Undergraduate Curriculum Committee
Lecturer, Computer Science
Queens College, CUNY

Roberta Brody PhD
Professor
Graduate School of Library and Information Studies
Queens College, City University of New York
Roberta.Brody@QC.cuny.edu (work)
bobbybrody@aol.com (home)
718 997-3790

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